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"The corporations have managed to convince edgy, rebellious teenagers that their prepackaged, manufactured top 40 artists are edgy and rebellious. They've convinced people that McDonald's is more nutritious than home cooked food. They've basically dressed up the most plastic bland music with an edgy "
"Is it really just that she's the last remaining creature of the post-pitchfork poptimist work-capital "new monoculture" these people tried their hardest to manifest into reality?"
"This popped up on my Facebook and made me cringe so much. Comments full of self declared 'metalheads' falling over themselves to doff the cap to pop music as a concept, shadowboxing with some made up guy who exclusively listens to Iron Maiden or whatever."
"seen a lot of poptimist propaganda on this sub recently, seems like we need a reminder"
"Even taking out the obvious big events, it was the peak of Fight Song/Hamilton era woke neoliberalism, Silicon Valley triumphalism, terrible poptimist criticism, and Marvel garbage was at peak hegemony too."
"Combined with the Beabadoobee meltdown... Is it so over for woke corporate nepo babies? And is poptimism dead? The Grand Inquisitor doesn't believe in God, and Pitchfork is going to get *really* real about their taste."
"People shouldn't feel superior to others for liking Billboard Hot 100 songs and mcu flicks whatever happened to personal cultivation? If you're proud of being a self-aware normie you're a walking simp for the American advertising industry. TikTok is only making this shit worse it's horrifying."
"Buy stock in niche and obscure media. The force which originated in the early 2010s to combat "hipster" elitism is losing steam. It's ok to be your authentic pretentious self. People don't have to pretend they listen to Beyoncé like they did in 2017."
"Everyone from Mariah Carey to Lil Kim gets a high-brow, poptimist "critical re-evaluation" these days but nothing was more "pop" in the late 90s than my boys Smashmouth, Barenaked Ladies, Sugar Ray, Matchbox 20, etc. Why do we all have to pretend that Celine Dion and Britney Spears' silly pop songs "
"Actually deranged levels of poptimism. The top 5 all being women (including 3 black women) followed by Smells Like Teen Spirit at #6 as the go-to sad white guy entry is beyond parody."
"Everyone can be a great artist! Anyone that pretends to no more than anyone else is pretentious. Intellectuals are too far up their own ass. Poptimism is just as worthy as Beethoven, etc etc. This war against the elites has trickled into the art world."
"I'm not built for the pre-poptimism era where people actually cared about selling out and opposed everything popular."
"I feel this ties into poptimism and 'let people enjoy things' and all that but this is a bit distinct. these people legitimately get angry when you tell them that you dislike the new marvel thing that they like."
"I honestly think it's connected to rising rate of declining American academic standards, poptimism, media turning into content, and the influx of anti-intellectualism since COVID. People have paradoxically become more open-minded towards depictions of foreign cultures and perspectives in media, but "
"I feel this ties into poptimism and 'let people enjoy things' and all that"